Comments on: IE6, IE7 and Apple Safari - Together

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By: Mark Eagleton

Mark Eagleton — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:16:03 +0000

The web development company I work for is an all Mac shop. We run Windows XP in VMware Fusion with the Evolt IE stand-alones. One computer, all browsers.

If you develop in a modern, standards compliant browser like Safari or Firefox, then make accommodations for IE via IE’s conditional comments, you’ll have a much easier time wriggling things into shape. Design for Firefox, and Safari will pretty much fall into place, or vice versa.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:03:35 +0000

Be wary of conditional comments in those standalone IE installs as they assume that they are whatever the current version of IE on your PC happens to be. There are ways of messing with your Windows registry to fix this problem but I usually avoid messing round with that stuff in case I break something.

By: A. Mad.

A. Mad. — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:28:36 +0000

Remember that Safari for Windows does not render the same as the Mac version…

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:59:23 +0000

I like reading about browser issues. Thanks for helping us!

By: Rob F

Rob F — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:44:26 +0000

On my PC, which is my primary machine, I start in IE7. Don’t know why, its just habit I guess. Windows is soo tied to IE. Then i check it out in Firefox and Opera.

I also have a mac mini for testing in Safari and Firefox on the mac. I’ve found occasionally that Firefox on the mac and firefox on the PC sometimes don’t act the same. Safari beta for PC, i have not tried but I am interested to see if it works the same way as Safari on the mac…

By: Blogsolid

Blogsolid — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:04:06 +0000

Thanks for the tips! I use the web developer toolbar for Firefox, but I’ll definitely check out the IE tab, Browsercamp and Firebug…

By: redwall_hp

redwall_hp — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:27:29 +0000

Majd Mash, that’s exactly what I do. I make it work in Firefox (which means it will work equally well in Opera, and it will generally work in Safari as well). Then I go and try to get it to look okay in IE. Generally it looks close enough that non-designers won’t notice that it’s too different, but there are generally a couple of slight goofs (IE’s fault!).

By: Majd Mash

Majd Mash — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:46:52 +0000

for me..Firefox is like a base. In my web designs, I care more if it works well on Firefox rather on IE. and since i don’t have a mac, testing on safari is a new thing for me, as new as the safari beta for windows.
What makes Firefox so good for a web developer is Firebug; an addon that simply eases your life and helps throughout the whole process! have a look here: http://www.getfirebug.com .
besides, you need to put in mind the targeted audience of your website, if you aren’t expecting alot of visitors from the US for example, it’s sort of safe not to test on safari.
…..and sorry for the lengthy comment :)

By: Jordan

Jordan — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:36:45 +0000

I use a PC and a mac also, and I know they have safari for windows, but in the past I have test safari out by going to http://www.browsercamp.com . Not sure if that will help anyone but I figured I would throw it out there.

By: Miguel Vera

Miguel Vera — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:12:55 +0000

I haven’t test safari, but I think I’ll take a look, though I don’t receive many visits from that browser. What I use to test IE is the IE Tab for Firefox.

By: redwall_hp

redwall_hp — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:18:23 +0000

I’ve heard of the Evolt archive. I use Firefox, then I test in IE7. After that I open up my folder of Evolt standalones and test in IE6. Oh, I test with the Safari beta as well (and Opera, but that’s virtually the same as Firefox).

It’s become a lot easier to to test sites in multiple browsers.